How to integrate existing interconnected wired fire alarm to GE Simon XT

I want to check if there is an easy way to integrate an interconnected wired smoke/fire alarm to GE Simon XT Panel.  I have one GE TX-6010-01-1 smoke alarm enrolled on a Simon XT Panel.  Now, I am exploring how to integrate the existing interconnected wired smoke/fire alarms in the house to the panel.

Is there a way to do that?  Any device I can use?  I do not want to change the other smoke/fire/carbon monoxide alarms since all those are relatively new.

Thanks.

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  • The GE SimonXT alarm panel is not designed to support a hardwired smoke/heat sensor or even a carbon monoxide sensor. These sensors require continuous power running to them and the SimonXT cannot provide these types of sensors the kind of constant power they require. In theory you could do it with the help of an additional independent power supply rated for the voltage needed for your specific smoke sensor.

    If you were to wire up a smoke sensor with an independent power supply the sensor then becomes a ''DIY'' part and in addition to being something that is not recommended by GE there would not be any technical support.

    We recommend using the TX-6010-01-1 wireless smoke sensor with your SimonXT alarm system as well as the wireless heat and carbon monoxide sensors manufactured by GE for the best results and reliability since these are the sensors designed my the manufacturer to be used with this system. These sensors are also provided with full technical support when purchased from Brinks.

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  • Thanks for the reply. 

    I was able to interconnect the wired smoke/fire alarms to the SimonXT panel using a Smoke Alarm Relay Module (Kidde SM120X) and the hardwired contacts in the panel.  Now my seven Kidde Smoke/Fire/Carbon Monoxide alarms are effectively integrated and SimonXT reports an alarm if any of those goes off.

    Btw, I also have three TX-6010-01-1 installed.  I would recommend one for a closed garage.

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  • Jbel just curious which wires on the module did you connect to the alarm?

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  • Hi Logan.  Sorry for the delayed reply. 

    I used the yellow and blue wires of the SM120X for a normally closed circuit and connected the wires to HW I/O and HW 1&2 DC out terminals.  Do not forget to insert a 47-kohm resistor between the SM120X wire (any of the two) and your connection to the panel otherwise your panel will not detect when your fire alarm goes off.

    Hope this helps.

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  • Well done, JBel! I needed this, too. Were you able to program the XT to treat the fire alarms as part of the fire alarm group, so that the appropriate signal is sent to the central office? In other words, the panel doesn't think its an intrusion when the fire alarm goes off, right?

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  • Hi Jonathan.

    I followed the same procedure for adding a sensor. 

    Set it up in the same group for fire/rate-of-rise heat sensors (TX-6010-01-1).  The downside is you cannot intelligently assign a specific area when naming the sensor since the wired fire alarm sensors (all three floors) are interconnected.

    In my case, I just named it "fire alarm" to distinguish it from the TX-6010-01-1s that were named like "Kitchen Fire Alarm".  When I get the call and status says "Fire Alarm", I know the alarm originated from area(s) not covered by the wireless fire alarms.

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  • good

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  • Does this mean that you have to run a wire from the wired smoke alarms (I think the detection wire may run to a breakout box in our house for the pre-wired security system) to the Simon XT (or XTi) main panel?   Or is there some wireless way to do this?   Our XTi is not located near any of the wired smoke alarms or the breakout box which may have the smoke alarm signaling wire.

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  • Jeff,

    Here is a wireless contact which provides terminals that can be connected to a normally closed loop:  If you are able to get a SM120X connected to your smoke detectors as the previous poster did, you could connect the output to the terminals on this contact instead of running a wire back to the main panel. Then enroll the wireless transmitter into the system just like any other sensor, putting it into the smoke detector group.

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  • What wire color of the SM120X will be connected to the External terminals of the wireless sensor? Does this need the 47-kohm resistor or 4.7 Kohm?

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  • Should be the same wires JBel mentioned earlier, yellow and blue. Good catch on the resistor though, you would use a 4.7 Kohm for the wireless transmitter. Here is a picture of the connection that might be helpful:

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  • I just moved into a new home and brought along my old Simon xt.  The new house had the old hardwired ADT vista 20p system along with Interconnected smoke detectors.  I want to convert to Simon because I think it's a much better system, not to mention getting away from the extremely high ADT family.  Inside of panel, there are several zones with the hardwired smokes.  Taking those 4 wires (red, black, yellow, cyan) which wires go to the sm120x.  Smokes are also to my electrical box for power.  Should I assume that previous owner already connected the relay in order to connect to control panel.  What is the wiring diagram to first connect from old panel to relay then to Simon xt.  I do not want to waste those ⁴ smoke detectors in all bedrooms. I will label that zone as "bedroom fire" since they are in all bedroom and the wireless smoke detector tx 6010 as basement, main level, and upstairs fire since I will be installing 3 of those.... Please help

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